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This page is typically used as a place to describe how the wiki is evolving, how people can get involved, etc.

For example, see Wikipedia's Community_Portal

Feel free to edit it so it can reflect all our input.

See also Talk:Main Page for discussion of the Main Page in particular.

Terminology

There are many terms for the local organizations that UUs join: church, fellowship, congregation, society, etc. The most general, and the one that is used in the UUA bylaws, is congregation, so that is probably the best term to use in most situations.

Crosslinks to Wikipedia

There will be many times we'll want to refer to wikipedia pages. E.g. recently the page for Unitarian Universalist Association was imported here from wikipedia. But that bring in tons of links most of which aren't relevant to this site. I think it would be better to have a distinct, local, internally-focussed page here, and reference the externally-focussed wikipedia page on UUA.

Things can be done with mediawiki namespaces (?) to make cross-references easy (so we don't have to enter the whole URL, etc). Anyone know offhand how to set that up?

RSS Feeds?

I must admit this is an area I'm not highly conversant in yet, but I do know that they are gaining in popularity. We've had a couple of people make requests on the Websters UUA list and so far this is what I've been able to find regarding RSS being incorporated into MediaWiki.

Do you have plans to activate RSS (and possibly other) feeds in the UUWiki? --LASS 09:19, 26 Jul 2004 (CDT)

Good pointer! As noted at that link, it is working for the Recent changes and New pages pages, and they seem to work fine here. For more info on RSS see [1] --NealMcB 15:10, 26 Jul 2004 (CDT)

Cool! - Thanks Neal. I see that both atom feeds and rss feeds are available in the UUwiki for those two pages from the toolbox in the left nav menu. --LASS 15:25, 26 Jul 2004 (CDT)

Look and Feel - Tabs

How customizable is the look and feel of the Wiki? There is on thing that really bothers me about the layout, and would have confused me more had i not already been familiar with Wikis. The tabs across the top of the pages are fairly confusing because they don't follow the standard use of tabs. Let me try and explain with an example:

I have a printer with a page for setting Network Settings. On this page are three Tabs - TCP/IP, IPX/SPX, and AppleTalk. within each tab is a set of editable items (edit boxes, radio buttons, etc.) and buttons representing actions (Save, restore defaults, cancel, etc). This create a clear visual heirarchy when editing:

Network Settings

  • TCP/IP
    • Settings
    • Actions
  • IPX/SPX
    • Settings
    • Actions
  • AppleTalk
    • Settings
    • Actions

The way the this page is currently organized the visual heirarchy would lead me to believe that there is no difference between hitting the edit tab when viewing the article, or viewing the discussion of the article, because either way the standard is that hitting a tab changes your context, as opposed to taking an action (editing) the currently selected item (the article).

So, I think it would make more sense if the actions (edit, watch, etc.) were buttons within the tab to clearly denote that it is an action being taken on the currently selected item.

John Cooley


John, click on "Preferences" all the way up in the upper right corner, then on "Skin". The current buttonlayout you see is part of the "MonoBook" skin. you can take a look to see how they are rendered using some of the other pre canned skins, or someone more knowledgable than I can teach you how to make your own skin. - UtherSRG 07:02, 22 Oct 2004 (CDT)
Well, I'm not terribly interested in customizing it with a personal skin. I have muddled through to the point where I get it, despite the confusing layout. Rather I am expressing a concern because I have talked to people who looked at the site and basically said they don't get it. I think the default layout looks pretty, but I think it has very poor usability. I would suggest that site itself default to a different skin. - John Cooley


Discussion Pages and CSS bug?

Sorry I don't know the protocol for discussion pages. When I go to edit UU Money I only get a blank page and my post goes to the bottom. I don't know how yours went to the top. I don't know how to edit out the list and put it on the article page. If you can do that, that would be appreciated or you could tell me how to do it. JoyceD 13:21, 4 Aug 2004 (CDT)

Thanks for your contribution Joyce - the text was great. I know this system is very new to most people and I didn't mean to sound critical or authoratative, if I did. Just trying to lend some insight from experience in similar situations. If you click on "edit" you edit the whole page. If you click on "+" your contribution is appended to the end. To move things from one page to another, you can just "cut" it from one (typically with the "edit" menu or control-x) and "paste" it into the other. If you don't want to do it, that's fine (that's one of the beauties of the "wiki way"). I or someone else probably will. I've loved the way others took my contributions and edited/expanded/changed them. Cheers --NealMcB 13:37, 4 Aug 2004 (CDT)
When I'm on this discussion page, there is no edit tab at the top - that is also true of other discussion pages that have already been started. I see only the name of the main page ("user page" in this case), discussion, +, move, and history. There are edit links in the sections I can click on, but none at the top. Am I doing something wrong? JoyceD 18:08, 8 Aug 2004 (CDT)


Oh dear. I'm guessing that your browser is not happy with the css (cascading style sheet) that mediawiki uses. Click on the "preferences" tab and then "skin" and try picking a different look-and-feel. Or this link should let you edit thiis page: [2]. In general note that to edit a page, just add &action=edit to the end of the URL for the page. The "monobook" css used in mediawiki is discussed at [3]. What version of which browser do you use? --NealMcB 21:08, 8 Aug 2004 (CDT)
IE 5.2 on Mac OS 10.1.5 I fooled around with editing the URL and finally found a way to make it work. JoyceD 15:50, 9 Aug 2004 (CDT)